Canon Digital Rebel XTi 10.1MP Digital SLR Camera (Black Body Only) Reviews

Average Customer Rating - 4.6 out of 5 stars

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Excellent Camera, but don't buy the kit lens, April 16, 2007
I owned a Canon Rebel film SLR that I used okay into 2002. Like many others, I got tired of paying for motion picture, so I made the switch to digital, buying a point-and-shoot. It wasn't until I purchased this Rebel SLR in March of 2007 that I realized how much I missed my SLR!

I purchased the body lone because I had a lot of Canon gear that be still compatible with the digital SLR. Buying the Canon was and so, an easy choice for me. However, I did compare the Canon to the Nikon D40 and D80 and found that the Canon compared very favorably, dollar-for-dollar.

The Canon Rebel XTi have a very high-quality surface about it. It is very powerfully made, with rubber grips at all the right contact points, buttons and doors that quality "made for the long run," EXCELLENT bundled software, and fast camera-to-PC transfer times. Unlike deeply of other electronics purchases I've made recently, it comes will full versions of adjectives of its software- no "lite" versions requiring you to pay more for the full publication. And again, the software is EXCELLENT. It is much better than the software that came bundled with my Kodak point-and-shoot.

Even if you don't hold any Canon lenses in your arsenal, I'd still advise against buying the tackle with the lens. The lens included with the paraphernalia is not a great lens- it won't disappoint, mind you, but it's not a high-quality optics lens. Most local camera stores are offering Canon-sponsored specials that allow you to buy the body and a separate lens for about like price as the Camera kit. This would be a much better deal. Note that the with the sole purpose difference between the "Kit" and the "Body Only" is the kit lens. The "Body Only" still includes all of the cable, software, manuals, battery, and charger.

If you're interested within flexing the camera's true muscle by shooting multiple frames at high resolution (I've gotten mine to fire 49 straight frames in around 17 seconds) you'll want to get a top-quality Compact Flash card; the camera does not come with one. Note that at hand are differences in memory cards with respect to read and write speeds. I purchased the SanDisk Extreme III 4GB card. The Extreme III row is capable of 20MB/sec min write and read speeds. Check other cards carefully- I've tried the slower cards and the camera cannot respond as quickly as you might want next to slower cards.

This is an excellent camera- it takes high-quality 10MP JPEG imagery with excellent color depth, white balance, and clarity, next to as little or as much control as you care to specify. You can use it as a novice's point-and-shoot, or a professional's wedding camera, and acquire excellent results every time.

If you're coming from Point and Shoot Cameras, September 19, 2006
You'll find plenty of technical reviews on the web about features and specs for this camera.

The best thing I think I can provide is my short experience next to this camera, so if you used to have a high back P&S camera and is looking to dive into the DSLR world, you are where I was a few weeks ago.

I owned a Sony F717 which I really loved, but honestly, adjectives I did was set it to Auto and take apt pictures. The problem was that I had a toddler at home that doesn't really approaching to wait till the camera took a few secs to focus and take the pic. I be missing those smiles and moments just because the Sony couldn't take pics nifty enough.

I decided to look into newer cameras... Initially my budget be around $400 and I was looking to buy the Canon S3. But after spending several weeks online reading reviews (like you probably are right now), I decided that I needed a DSLR (you'll find plenty of technical reasons contained by the web and other reviews). I was later ready to buy the Canon Xt (But the Xti was of late around the corner, so I decided to wait a couple more weeks and when the Xti be finally released on Sep 1st, I went to Best Buy and got mine)

It's my third week near the camera, and I'm loving it. I can take pictures of my son faster than he can say "bugga bugga bugga". While I'm still research how to use the camera to its potential (I've been trying to learn how to shoot pictures surrounded by manual mode instead of full automatic), I've been fully happy with the results so far.

If you're doing what I did last month, you're probably reading tons of reviews of this camera, the Canon Xt, Nikon D50, Nikon D70, Nikon D80, etc. Don't spend in dribs and drabs your time on the details.. They're all excellent cameras, and if you're coming from P&S, any of these cameras will be an awesome one for you to learn.

I put on alert you though. The biggest danger of buying this camera is that you'll soon be lusting after lenses... Now I spend hours on the web checking reviews of Canon, Sigma and Tamron lenses, and believe it or not, it's much harder to buy lenses than to buy a camera.

PS: A Great book I I get was "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson. I actually get the book before the camera, and it was one of the foremost deciding factors that get me into DSLR instead of a pro P&S. The pictures that Bryan shows in this book are amazing and you need control. Now I'm paranoid next to getting the smallest Depth of Field possible in my son's pictures (You'll understand this if you obtain this book or any other that explains concepts of Exposure)

Update (10/04): After weeks digging forums and reviews, I decided to purchase 2 lenses... The canon 50 f1.8 and the canon 70-300 IS. I'm not going to go over the details for these lenses within this review, but wanted to let you guys know that decide which camera was the easy cog. Deciding the lenses is where all the aching resides.

Great camera, but the included Macintosh software is tricky to install, September 14, 2006
I've been wanting a digital SLR for a long time and with the introduction of the Canon Digital Rebel XTi, I contracted the time was right. My experiences are based on more or less 7 years of point-and-shoot zoom cameras and, before that, a manual focus Canon A-1 picture SLR.

As SLRs go, the camera is very compact out of the box. Unfortunately, it didn't stay that course after I attached the optional BG-E3 battery grip. It feel very solid regardless of the attachments, but I think it's for a moment easier to handle with the extra bulk of the freestyle grip, which also allows for up to three times the battery power of the standard Li-ion battery when used beside the high capacity NiMH AA battery currently available,

The lens included in the kit is okay, especially if you can't afford a better lens, but I found that a Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM lens gives noticeably sharper descriptions. I will be using the kit lens only when I obligation 18-24mm focal lengths.

One of the first things that impressed me when I started using the camera was the autofocus speed. It is really vigorous and works well in lighting conditions that would get my Canon PowerShot S1 IS's autofocus choke. It uses the flash as a focus assist light when the light get too low for the autofocus to work unassisted.

The controls are well laid out. They provide one-button access to white balance settings, ISO settings, autofocus modes, and exposure modes. Exposure compensation is trained almost as easily: turn the dial next to the shutter release while holding down the aperture/exposure compensation button beside your thumb.

My only complaints center around the difficulty with which the included Macintosh software installed. First of adjectives, unlike software installers for any other package I've installed under OS X, which endow with you the opportunity to authenticate with an admin name and password even when installed from a average user account, the installer for the included software does not. Therefore, you *must* install the software while logged into an admin account. This is hugely bad installer design IMHO.

Secondly, the Digital Photo Professional application would not operate correctly when run in a commonplace user account unless it was run once surrounded by an admin account. I presume that the first run installs some extra software (plugins or drivers?) in a location singular writable by an admin user. Before I figured this out, the app would not decode nor process RAW imagery, more often than not resulting in the SBOD (spinning beachball of death) and requiring a force-quit of the app. However, once I get it working, the software worked well on the RAW images I have captured with the camera. I be able to brighten up a slightly underexposed RAW photo of one of my cats in a outstandingly expressive pose by about 0.5 stops with no striking quality loss.

I would heartily recommend this camera to anyone who has be disappointed with the image ability, speed, and other limitations of a point-and-shoot.

Great for travelers and DSLR newcomers, November 8, 2006
With emphasis on portability, Canon's Digital Rebel XTi is designed for first-time DSLR photographers and travel enthusiasts. Measuring 5.0" by 3.7" by 2.6" and weigh 1.1 lbs., it is about as large as the largest point & shoot cameras and one of the smallest DSLR camera bodies on the open market. Its size is the source of both popularity and criticisms. If you have large hand or a heavier lens, it may feel too small. An optional mobile grip can help, but some will want something more substantial. Visit a store nearby to find out for yourself.

The collection includes camera body with a lens cap, battery-operated, charger, manual, catalogs, neck strap, USB and composite video cable, and CD-ROMs. You will need a lens and CompactFlash memory card. There may be some static energy contained by the packaging, so remove the lens cap contained by a dust-free environment such as the bathroom to prevent dust entering the sensor. Much promoted sensor cleaning system helps, but it's best not to get any within the first place.

Canon sells 4 versions of XTi: black or silver finish and near or without EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 lens. Black or silver is largely a personal preference, but most lenses, most bits and pieces, and all but low-end DSLR camera bodies are black. As for the kit lens, it can be an affordable introduction to DSLR and dexterous if used exclusively at f/8 or f/11 apertures (soft at other apertures). In other words, the lens is not ideal for shooting under low night light. If you don't have to get a zoom lens presently, start with Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II. It is famous for top-notch running at very low price. Due to XTi's APS-C image sensor (compositions are multiplied by 1.6x), this lens become 35mm-equivalent of 80mm.

If you have the budget for a good zoom lens, at over 100 lenses, Canon have you covered. Some of Canon's popular zoom lenses include EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM, EF 17-40mm f/4L USM, EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM, and EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM. If these are too pricey, third party vendors such as Sigma and Tamron put together Canon-compatible lenses for less. Their focus is not as nice as Canon's USM but they generally outperform Canon's lower-end lenses.Tamron's SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) and Sigma's 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC and AF 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC macro are popular among budget-minded photographers.

With 10.1 megapixels imitation sensor, the XTi can benefit from sharper lenses. Although increasing the resolution over same image sensor area can increase boom, Canon has improved the sensor technology to keep up low noise floor and high dynamic reach. Performance wise, there's very little to criticize. Great example of Canon's trademark smooth, illustrious contrast, saturated, and low noise. Noise remains low even at ISO 800. It is said that shooting RAW is equivalent to getting an extra exposure (1.0 EV) and it can sustain you maintain usable details with legitimate noise at ISO 1600. Low noise give XTi a bit of an excuse for missing in-body image stabilizer. According to Canon, lens is more effective location for picture stabilizer, especially telephoto. That's true but I think the feature would've be nice to have. As a consolation, the XTi has mirror lockup that reduce vibration caused by the mirror movement. My sole acting out criticism is the metering mode. It includes only partial and not spot metering mode (very useful when shooting large contrast scenes such as candlelit birthday cake). Perhaps more problematic is the evaluative metering mode, which occasionally underexposes images by 2/3 EV or so.

Some enjoy criticized XTi for "plasticky" build. Except for the metal lens mount, the exterior is largely made of high quality engineering plastic near rubbery paint. If you drop it, it will probably crack or break, but it's sturdy and well made. Flipping on the power lever, it starts up almost immediately in place for use. Much promoted auto sensor cleaning kicks in when powering up and down. As near most DSLRs, there's virtually no shutter lag and it focuses in a split second (especially when using a USM lens). In continuous shooting mode beside a fast memory card, it can take 10 RAWs or 27 JPEGs at 3 frames per second. RAW imagery are 10 MB each, so get a speed 2 GB or larger memory card, such as SanDisk's Ultra II series.

Replacing both 1.8" LCD and info display is 2.5" giant resolution LCD with LED backlighting. It displays current camera settings, photos in memory, and menu. Thanks to greater material estate and more refined user interface, XTi is very intuitive and pleasure to use. The minus is 10% lower battery-operated life, which was merely tolerable to begin with. XTi have 95% crop 0.8x optical viewfinder that displays 9 auto focus points, shutter speed, aperture, and more, but misses ISO speed, white balance, and metering mode. Overall, XTi's viewfinder is more than adequate but pale to Nikon D80's larger and more comprehensive one.

Highlights of software package are ImageBrowser (Mac OS X Universal Binary), ZoomBrowser (Windows), and Digital Photo Professional (Mac OS X Universal Binary and Windows). ImageBrowser and ZoomBrowser are easy-to-weight lightweight applications for managing JPEG and RAW. Digital Photo Professional is considerably more powerful and lets you use XTi's dust delete notes feature for removing dust its sensor cleaning hardware couldn't remove.

Nice upgrade of the popular Digital Rebel Series!, September 12, 2006
[This is the same review I posted for the utensils. If you're getting the body because you don't like the 18-55 lens, keep contained by mind that some dealers offer this camera within a kit with the much nicer 17-85 USM IS (image stabalization) zoom.]

The topical Digital Rebel XTi camera should appeal to a wide variety of users: those wish to upgrade from a point & shoot digital, or those wishing to improve upon their first colleagues digital SLRs. Features and value make this a 5-star camera, but it won't be everyone's cup of tea.

Compared to the previous Digital Rebel XT, celebrated improvements are:

1) 10.1 megapixels. In digital camera circles, this is like saying a saloon has more horsepower than an older coup��. While this alone doesn't mean "better" pictures, in realness, combined with other improvements in hardware & software, the results typically are better.;

2) 2.5" LCD panel. This alone have more than one advantage. The obvious first one is that our pictures look larger surrounded by review. The second, and for someone approaching 50 (like myself), is that the LCD is now used for all the camera's facts (shutter speed, aperture, shots left, etc.). It's much easier to read than the small LCD typically located on the top of the cameras. It might use up the batteries quicker, but, heck, if you can see the info this much easier, afterwards so be it. One complaint, it does not appear that the data rotates when you do verticals (like the Sony Alpha 100).;

3) 9-point AF. The number of points are improved from 7, but the physical key here is that it's the system from the 30D, which had a much better degree of accuracy than the previous Rebels.;

4) Picture Styles. I didn't really appreciate them at first, but simply put, this is approaching the days of film, when we could use a "portrait" film or "landscape" picture. For those that don't like to do a lot of computer work, these can be VERY handy contained by getting the right look in the camera.;

5) Dust cleaning system. OK, I think the dust problem will probably be somewhat overblown, now that Canon offers a solution, but it is a definite, if not great, threat. Additionally, the way Canon have implemented it is second to none. The first is through hardware. An ultrasonic filter can simply shake the dust off. Second is through software. If you spot a hurtful piece that won't shake off, you can do a reference shot, and enjoy the dust removed by software on your computer.;

6)The grip has been enhanced a little. The rubber on the grip is improved, and an anti-slip strip have been placed on the back where on earth the right thumb goes.

Most all other things Canon is know for still exists. The camera focus speedy and quietly. Camera operations are expeditious and easy to locate and use. Pictures look great.

Now for the other side. This is an unusual time in that adjectives the big players are comming out with a 10 megapixel camera at the same time, so the Canon have some stiff competition. Here goes a simple comparison.

1) Compared to the other two cameras already available, the Sony A100 and Nikon D80 (both also 5-star cameras), the XTi is considerably smaller, and somewhat lighter. Some will like this, even some beside medium to medium-large hands. But most relations with larger, and some with somewhat smaller hand may prefer the other two choices.;

2) The battery is somewhat smaller than its rival's, and may drain a bit faster due to the LCD being used for info adjectives the time.;

3) Functionally, the rear LCD is not as nice as the Sony's. The Sony's rotates, can be set to enlarged type (50+ user again), and the system that turns it off as your eye approaches also starts the AF on the Sony. [Although several like the top LCD, the Nikon way of need to push a button on the back, then zenith over the top to see what you're setting is not as nice].;

4) No in camera stabalization. The A100 can shift the sensor to help stamp out camera shake. Nikon and Canon require you to purchase rather expensive lenses to get the anti-shake.;

Also, soon to be added to the competion will be the Pentax K10D. Specs are sketchy right very soon, but it appears to be enter the competition as a 10 megapixel camera with built-in anti-shake (much like their K100D).

Of these 3 currently on the souk, the Canon is the least expensive; therefore, it's up to the other 2 to show they are worth more, a especially difficult task, indeed.

A Gem of a Camera, October 16, 2006
I bought the Rebel EOS Digital XTi 400D to upgrade my almost 3-year old Rebel EOS Digital 300D (which, by the method, is still a great camera). I won't go into the technical differences between the two cameras, but I will utter this: the differences between the two cameras are worth the cost of the upgrade for me. Here's why.

Although too much can be made of additional pixels, the upgrade from 6 mega-pixels to 10.1 mega-pixels simply means that more information is available to process pictures. I shoot in RAW mode, so I'll take adjectives the additional information I can get.

The larger LCD peak on the 400D is much, much, much better than that on the 300D. I really like a) the much larger view of respectively picture taken, and b) the clarity of the camera settings when displayed on the screen. I also really like the fact that automatically turns off the screen when the camera is raise to the eye for composition. I honestly didn't realize how tiny the 300D LCD is until comparing it to the 400D. Thank you, Canon, for the bigger screen!

I also like that the 400D comes next to new, selectable Picture Styles (Standard, Portrait, Landscape, Neutral and Faithful) that automatically make small corrections to things resembling sharpness, contrast and color.

The camera start-up time on the 400D is also significantly quicker than that of the 300D. I once missed what I now think is the shot of a lifetime because I couldn't grasp the 300D to start up fast enough. I believe the 400D would enjoy gotten the shot.

It's also much easier to select the type of Auto Focus mode on the 400D. When your camera is set to shoot in One Shot mode, but you find yourself in the middle of movement and doings, the 400D makes it easy and quick to switch to AI Focus or AI Servo - essential for sports shots.

For those who have come to appreciate and rely on the histogram to determine proper exposure, you now own the choice between Brightness and RGB.

I also like the increased continuous shooting speed of almost 3 frames-per-second. A very nice part when shooting the dog, kids playing or outdoor events.

Finally, for those who are concerned about dust on the sensor, the new automatica sensor cleaning capabiltiy is a deeply nice to have.

On the downside, the 400D camera grip is a bit too small for larger hands. It's acceptable, but not as comfortable as the grip on the 300D. However, I mostly solved this problem by attaching an Opteka battery grip, which enlarged the grip surface.

Also, the smaller battery size on the 400D manner that you can't interchange batteries between the 300D and the 400D. It also means that the (optional) battery-operated grip that worked on the 300D does not fit on the 400D.

BOTTOM LINE

Am I happy that I upgraded from the 300D to the 400D? You bet. I'd do it again in a heart hit.

Would I recommend this camera to the serious amateur? Absolutely. It's worth every penny to someone getting his or her first Digital SLR or upgrading from the 300D.

Difficult Decision (30D vs. XTi), November 10, 2006
I had the Rebel XT and about 8 lenses and be thinking of getting an upgraded second camera body. So when it came out the 30D was a logical choice, but it be not really much of an upgrade from the 20D, which I resisted, so I was not really sure what to do. Then I had adjectives but decided to just filch the plunge and get the 30D when I heard the first rumblings in the order of the XTi.

Then I started to learn the details about the XTi, more mega pixels, same auto focus, same blind, picture styles, dust cleaning! The only areas that the 30D won in my view were build quality, spot meter, and estimated shutter enthusiasm. Those 3 categories were not plenty to convince me that the 30D was worth $300-$400 more than the XTi especially since the XTi had won or tied within most categories. The way I look at it is that the camera bodies are not nearly as high-status as the lenses, they change so fast that it is not worth it to me to spend more for longevity when it will be outdated contained by a year anyway. Spend $1,500 on a lens, use it for a lifetime, spend $1,500 on a camera body, regret it in a year. I fully expect the upgrade to the 30D to be released within a year, and presently that I have saved by getting the XTi I will own all that much more to put towards it when it comes out.

So basically what I am wise saying is that, in my opinion, the XTi is freshly as good, if not better than the semi-pro 30D, so why rate more? Switching from the XT to the XTi was very simple, I can use them both presently without any problems. The batteries, freestyle grips, remote shutter release, and most of the other accessories are also compatible with both, which is nice to save the amount of gear you need to carry to a minimum.

Unless you want to move up to a full frame sensor, I can't see any reason why you would not want to go with this camera. If you read books on photography from a moment ago 1 or 2 years ago you will realize that this "entry level" camera has features that were not even available resting on the line ($5,000+) camera bodies. With the speed that camera bodies advance you might as very well buy the entry level body every year instead of making a huge investment in the pro plane bodies and then being shown up by something 10% of that price within a year or two. Not that there are not reasons to buy one of those bodies, I merely don't seem have any of them.

So Far So Good, September 19, 2006
I be comparison-shopping between the Canon Rebel XTi, Nikon D80 and Sony Alpha DSLR-A100. Issues that matter most to me are ISO performance, photo stabilization and dust removal capability. The best information that I was competent to gather from various professional reviews in the past my purchase decision is as follows:

ISO performance: The XTi and D80 are pretty much on a par, but beside the D80 having a slight edge contained by being able to push it up to 3200 (with decrease resolution at that setting though). The Sony starts to fall behind at ISO 800 near noise issues and at ISO 1600 with other photograph quality issues as well.

Image Stabilization: Sony have an edge in vocabulary of cost-effectivenes because of the use of an in-camera IS system. With Canon and Nikon, you have to pay extra for lenses near IS.

Dust Removal: Canon provides both hardware and software solutions. Sony provides hardware only. Nikon provides neither.

I decided to thieve a chance on the XTi and bought the camera with gear lens about 10 days ago. Since then, I be snapping shots everywhere at various camera settings, testing its limitations. First off, I was greatly impressed with the lightning quick execution of the camera. I was also stunned by the amazing picture quality that the utensils lens is capable of providing, especially after so much snob from numerous professional photographers on this "cheap" lens. The most tell-tale signs are various hand-held leader shots taken indoor at ISO settings of 800 and 1600 (without flash nor any additional lighting). I was competent to capture all the vivid details of the skin complexion of a human obverse, including every little pore, hair, bum, wrinkle, and even subtle skin discoloration.

Excited over the amazing performance of this foreign camera, I decided to add a zoom lens to it and I bought the Canon EF 70-300 mm F/4-5.6 IS USM zoom lens five days ago. I took it to the park two days then to take pictures of our dog and her canine buddies. It was already 6:45pm when we arrived at the park. With Image Stabilization functions on, mitt held, ISO fixed at 1600 and no flash, I snapped both still shots and light-duty action shots from a distance at various focal length. I was still able to bring back quite a number of first-rate letter-size printouts from these shots.

So far, I am very happy next to the camera and the two lenses. There are a few things I would wish for though. I wish the XTi would enjoy a larger viewfinder (both the D80 and A100 have larger viewfinders), illuminated buttons (for dark shots), and more reasonable prices on Canon's lens hoods (the lens hood for the above-mentioned zoom lens costs an outrageous $45).

excellent camera, but don't get the gear!, October 3, 2006
I've been using the 400d/XTi for about 2 weeks presently, and I love it. Shutter response is very fast, and the LCD is smoothly readible, even in very bright conditions. The 9 point AF is far superior to the 7 point AF offered on the 300 and 350d models, and the added resolution (10.08 MP) is a nice bonus. The anti-dust protection, above all the automatic sensor cleaning, is great as I change lenses quite normally.

I'm sad to say that the 400d have replaced my (more expensive) 30d for most applications. The 30d clearly has a better build quality, but that's the single advantage I can see at this point. If you want a lightweight, moderately inexpensive prosumer-grade camera, the 400d is about as well-mannered as you can get for the money.

PLEASE NOTE: if you are new to digital photography, the camera is considerable, but lenses are FAR MORE IMPORTANT. If you want to get great results with the 400d, you're going to own to buy good lenses. The kit lens (18-55, NOT USM) sucks -- it make a good paperweight, but that's it. If you're a beginner I'd recommend the 50mm f/1.8 MK II (or the f/1.4, if you can afford it) to start. The f/1.8 MK II is cheaper than the utensils lens, and while it's a prime (doesn't allow you to zoom) it's much sharper in low light conditions (and the f/1.4 is even sharper than the f/1.8).

Overall, I tender this camera a 9 out of 10. For the price, it's the best you can get. Just remember, lenses are more important than the camera. A 300d next to L-series lenses will outperform a 400d with low/consumer grade lenses contained by all settings. If you already have a 300 or 350d, retrieve your money and invest it in better optics. If you don't already have a dslr, this is maybe the best entry-level model on the market.

Best Canon yet-400D, November 15, 2006
I'll keep this short,as I assume most of the tec stuff have been covered.I sold a 350D to get the 400D(XTi).The 400D focuses better,have better ergonomics,is the same size/weight,and takes GREAT photos.I tried a Nikon D80,but it loses route too much detail at iso 400 and up.Plus the Canon line of lenses fits my needs better,are cheaper,and are available.The Nikon costs $300 more (with the Canon self discounted),and the Nikon Raw converter adds another $150.So the true cost difference is $400-450.
I'd buy the Canon over the Nikon at the same price due to depiction quality,especially if you shoot jpeg.
BTW,if you can afford Canon L lenses(the 25-105L and the 70-200L-any of the 4) are amazing.
One caveat,as with ANY dslr,these cameras are not p/s and do best beside some post processing and with knowledge of how a camera meters/exposes,etc.I can't play up this enough.

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